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This week on Super Tuesday the spirits are high.No bashing as all the results went there respective ways, with the axecption of Chelsea. News is just in that Terry had a bust up with Ten Kate, Come to Liverpool Jhon. We have Ejaz, Chavel and we welcome ZK for teh super 14. Yes Boys, ZK is a babe writing the Super 14. How cool is that. Azee and Seth, you lions MUGGS, Are you scared of Great White Sharks…………….

From the Kop End
KOPics of discussion
Hatrick hero: Fernando Torres
By Ejaz Khan

1 for the money

2 for the show
3 past the useless Ozzy

he killed Middlesborough
This Super Tuesday post is dedicated to El Nino Fernando Torres. Liverpool’s official website did a sterling synopsis on the post match reaction, as Fernando Torres goal tally reached 15 in the league campaign and 21 in all competitions.

The local paper
Apart from his well known and understandable aversion to the penalty spot, there can be few things in football which strike as much fear into the heart of Middlesbrough boss Gareth Southgate as the sight of Fernando Torres bearing down on goal. Four goals scored in just two games against the Teessiders tells its own story but the sub-plot to the tale is that without their new iconic front man Liverpool may not have taken a single point from either of these matches. At the Riverside last month, a Torres strike from fully 30 yards gave the Reds a point in a game which appeared to be slipping away from them, and at Anfield on Saturday he again came up with the goods with a superb hat-trick which delivered all three.
The Echo

The player
It’s the second hat-trick of my Liverpool career so it was a very happy day for me. It was fantastic to score a hat-trick in front of the Kop. It was my first at Anfield and I feel very comfortable playing here. Twenty-one goals is my best season yet and we still have a maximum of 18 games to go, in the Premier League and Champions League, so hopefully I can score more. I’m happy when the team wins, I’m not thinking about scoring 30. Fernando Torres

The boss
I was really happy with the performance. I think coming after a Champions League game the most important thing was to win. After we scored the third goal on the counter attack you could see that we could score more, but they put us under a bit of pressure because they have some good players in attack. It’s always difficult to score more than 20 goals, but Torres has done it in his first season. We knew that he was a player with power and pace, he can kill defenders with his pace.
Rafael Benitez
The former player Torres was terrific and it was important for us to win this game after our fantastic midweek display. Torres showed just how important he is to this Liverpool team and his second goal was world class.

Phil Neal



Inside the Theatre – Challenging on all fronts
As we hit the home straight this season Ferguson’s Red Army still look on course to challenge on all three fronts.
A domestic double would be a tremendous achievement. The priority still has to be the league title its our bread & butter & the foundation on which to go on and dominate Europe. Gut feeling tells me we might not crack Europe this season. We do have a enough resources & strength in midfield but I feel the players just need more time to gel. Young talent like Nani & Anderson are still building there understanding of the United way, though they have exceeded expectations by a mile. Darren Fletcher needs to find consistency & improve his passing whilst Owen Hargreaves needs to anchor his role as the midfield rock protecting the back four. Injuries have not helped. In attack Saha has the ability to be world class if he can stay fit. Whilst Tevez & Rooney have developed a good understanding & remain one of the best striking partnerships in Europe. Though theres room for one more striker, I doubt Dong Fangzhou will crack the first team. Maybe Huntelaar or Benzema are on the cards come next season or maybe the Angolan wonderboy will take full advantage of his oppurtunity. In defense it would be great to h

ave Gary Neville back his overlapping runs from right back & quality crossing is something we miss. Unfortunately injuries are now threatening his career. Fortunately Brown & Evra have stabilized the defense as the strongest in the premiership. You need a bit of luck to win the treble but “luck is an opportunity for the well prepared”, are we fully prepared?

Wes Browns contractual dispute continues as the long serving United defender will become a free agent at the end of the season. SAF has come out criticizing Wes’ agent & has stated that United have made the 28 year old Brown a good offer but his agent has influenced him otherwise in rejecting a £40,000 a week deal. Add another ten grand I say & Wes will sign. His well worth it & more importantly United born & bread coming through the ranks since he was 12 Years old.

Another developing problem seems to be Patrice Evra’s new contract demands, United are subsequently chasing Phillipe Lahm of Bayern Munich, the versatile defender is also being eyed by Barcelona. However the £8.5million rated 24 year old prefers a move to the premiership.
SAF has indicated Ryan Giggs would be an excellent candidate to take up a coaching role at United. Giggs will be doing his UEFA A license with the Welsh FA & together with Neville & Scholes can offer a lot to United’s technical staff.

Last Game v Lyon(1-1)
The away goal means a nil nil score line see’s us through. Surely it will be a different game at the Theatre.

Vs Newcastle (5-1)
Must be pure torture for ex United players Smith & Butt to be hammered twice this season by their former club. Smith was a hard worker at United but not prolific in front of goal. Butt was a great squad player always filling in brilliantly when called upon, someone that should have stayed at OT. Times have moved on & Carrick has just got better & better this season. His passing & steadiness in midfield is very impressive & surely it will translate to a regular England birth. One of the key players in winning the title last season held the midfield confidently at Tyne side. Ron The DON was just magic – words fail me, Rooney – needs to stay on form > superb double, Saha – needs to stay fit. The Geordies know theres only One United!!

Next Game vs. Fulham (1st Mar 08 – Kickoff 17:00 – SS5)
Now it starts to get tricky the relegation bound teams start to fight even harder, Al Fayed resurrected Fulhams fortunes but it takes a lot of money to stay in the Premiership will he sell Harrods to buy some new players?



So first post of a Super14 round up – forgive me for a few lapses in concentration.
Firstly as a Sharks supporter I may be biased towards their style of play. This weekends matches for South African teams started of as a mixed bag. Last years winners the Bulls lost against the better team of the day. The Crusaders outplayed and outran their opponents. In a repeat of last year’s semi-finals many wondered whether the Bulls can do as they had. But sadly the Bulls lack the lustre that they showed last year. Without Habana – out through injury, the team lacked a wing that had flying power. Most of the team now playing overseas rugby has depleted the depth that was present in last years Super14 winners.
Final result: Bulls 19 – 54 Crusaders

In another disappointing South African side the Cheetahs lost to the Western Forces 15 – 16. Sadly didn’t catch this match so I have no idea how it was but here’s the quick round-up. “A Giteau penalty put the Force ahead 13-12 after 54 minutes, but Barnard was on target nine minutes later to regain the lead for the Cheetahs. With the Cheetahs comfortable on their own lineout ball, particularly through Rory Duncan at the front, and Barend Pieterse so impressive in every aspect of the game, it looked as though the Cheetahs would hold onto their lead.” The Force’s took victory from the Cheetahs in injury time. Matt Giteau slotted an injury time penalty.
Final Result: Cheetahs 15 – 16 Western Forces

The match that I did catch in its entity was (of course) the Sharks match. A low scoring match and a bad one on the Sharks part. Sharks moved the ball superbly along their backline but not till the 69minute did they come alive. Injected with a few changes they won the match (by luck). With most of the possession but unable to make it count the Sharks went into half time against the Stormers 10 down. Into the second half all points came from the Sharks through penalties. Schalk Burger was sited and sin binned in the match. Good to see young Rory Kockott showing some promise.
Final result: Sharks 12 – 10 Stormers

This seasons definite title contenders showed class, promise and a flowing attack that the Lions could not stop at Ellis Park. The Blues are this year’s favourite and given the way they out-played the poor Lions it’s not hard to see why. They showed what attacking rugby was all about with a superb seven try win. They took the new laws to heart and exploited the Lions forwards. With their pace a tap-and-go game suits the Aucklanders to a tee.
Final Result: Lion 10 – 55 Blues

Brumbies 22 – 20 Highlanders
Chiefs 20 – 17 Waratahs
Hurricanes 23 – 18 Reds

Vodacom Super 14 Log

1. Crusaders 10
2.Blues 10
3.The Sharks 8
4.Waratahs 5
5.Reds 5
6.Western Force 5
7.Hurricanes 4
8.Chiefs 4
9.Vodacom Bulls 4
10.Brumbies 4
11.Auto & General Lions 4
12.Vodacom Cheetahs 2
13.Highlanders 2
14.Vodacom Stormers 2

MUGG OF THE WEEK: Taylor from Birmingham. That was a horrific tackle. Horrific. And he has said he never meant it. In the voice of the cruel lady from teh weakest link.Taylor you are the MUGG OF THE WEEK, GOODBYE

Gerards goal in context against Inter

Worst hairstyle of the Week
ABEL XAVIER. Purely World Calss

James Ormond & Mark WaughJames Ormond (England) had just come out to bat on an ashes tour and was greeted by Mark Waugh(Australia).
Mark Waugh :
“F*** me, look who it is! Mate, what are you doing out here? There’s no way you’re good enough to play for England”
James Ormond :
“Maybe not, but at least I’m the best player in my family”
The Catch: Mark Waugh’s brother Steve Waugh was the Captain for Australia.


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Comments (33)

  • ebi Kop End
    February 26, 2008 at 8:04 am Reply

    El –Nino you beauty!
    21 goals in his first season with with 3 months of games still to play! Magical 30 is not far away! Hopefully this will be achieved on our way or in Moscow!
    Some say were were lucky to win 3-2, but WTF? 3POINTS in the bag is all that counts plus a Hatrick!!!
    Credit to Juande Ramos for moulding spurs and bringing them there 1st cup in 8 years! I read that he’ll be given 40 odd million in the summer to strengthen!
    If spurs continue and win the UEFA Cup that would be a third triumph in succession in the competition for the former Sevilla manager.
    Horrific injury to Eduardo! And poor performance by the gunners! Plz get your act together and stop the scum as they continue to shine… That lity Ronaldo is something else and credit to him!

  • Anonymous
    February 26, 2008 at 8:11 am Reply

    recieved an email showing the full tackle on eduardo.
    definately horrific. i cannot imagine the pain this lity went absolutely terrible tackle.

    to see his foot hanging like that.i think this had a definate effect on the arsenal players.

    hope the lity recovers soon.

    “go” get well eduardo

  • SETH
    February 26, 2008 at 8:24 am Reply

    United were class once again this week and hopefully we keep the momentum going until May. Nani was impressive and looks a quality replacement for Ryandinho when he quits.

    Torres is class, the lad know’s where the goals are and finds them on a regular baisi. Pity he’s surrounded by sh*t!

    Unfortunately the Lions were drubbeb this weekenend. The scary part though is that the SA sides are struggling to adapt to the ELV’s whilst the Blues and Crusaders have embraced them and taken their game to the next level. We’re going to struggle to get a single team into the semi’s.

  • Ta^KiLLa
    February 26, 2008 at 8:37 am Reply

    Lions were helpless the weekend.. Makes me want to give up my box tickets for Fridays game against the Western Force.. Bulls all the way..

    As for El Nino – Simple rule to the Americans .. U get what u pay for.. Pay 26 mil and u’ll get class.. Pay 8 mil and u’ll get Dirk Kuyt.. Its not rocket science..

    Shakes – Toni to Milan is on the cards. I read the article.. But Pippo to Bayern will neva happen.. It’ll be a shame.. I hate that oke with a passion.. Bayern are a team i follow regularly and to see a oke like Pippo there will hurt.. Besides him being an Ital, he scored 2 past Pool in the final.. Fair enuf to his accolades and achievements, he was kak then and is still kak now..

    Eduardo – At 25 to suffer that kind of an injury is tragic.. Hope he recovers well..

    Chelski – Simple rule to Avram Grant – Leave out the German skipper and shit is bound to hit the fan.. Serves u rite against Spurs..

    Whos this Rafinha oke Rafa sent scouts to see last week..12 mil for a right back.. Must be decent..

    ZK – Let the Sharks come to the BULLring.. It will be DeJaVu from 2007.. (remember habana in the shark tank)..


  • ZK
    February 26, 2008 at 9:07 am Reply

    i tried posting this comment f%$king four times (excuse the english boys) anyway feel sorry for ed hope he recovers but looks like only aft a year…
    Killa -> at the moment they both look horrid and we shall see but until they adapt to the ELV as seth puts it — we in shit deep shit 😛

  • ZK
    February 26, 2008 at 9:11 am Reply

    o and the tackle reminds me of a certain united player doing the same a while back and then saying he did it on purpose in his autobiography hmmm

  • Anonymous
    February 26, 2008 at 9:13 am Reply

    Rafinha stands is not only a solid defender, but shows huge willingness to burst forward down the flank. His comfort on the ball is rounded out by strong shooting ability and plenty of talent in his left as well as his favoured right foot and he prefers a move to LIVERPOOL!!!

  • Shakes
    February 26, 2008 at 9:42 am Reply

    Killa I was only saying that in the hope that Milan would get rid of Pippo. I still don’t like the guy, even though he scored twice against the fools. Toni I must admit shows quality, but is still not my favourite striker, I still back the signing of Benzema to Milan. Galliani must act now.

    That tackle on Eduardo reminds me more of the injury suffered by Alan Smith against the fools, he also broke his leg and dislocated his ankle.

    21 goals (15 in the league) and you still only challenging for fourth spot.

    Can we now say Torres FC? What was that about a one man team?


  • Shakes
    February 26, 2008 at 9:51 am Reply

    Oh ya Killa – Rafinha is a right back playing for German side Schalke, I thought you would know that. He’s a very attack minded fullback and regularly joins the attack. He looks a good player but Im not sure about his physique for the english game.

    On the whole he prefers to join Liverpool thing, thats just paper talk or his way of trying to win a bigger move from Schalke, these guys move to any big club that make an offer. Take Maschereno for instance, in his press conference after signing for Liverpool, he said he was proud to be signing for the Red Devils.


  • Punisher
    February 26, 2008 at 10:00 am Reply

    I also checked the pics of ed’s tackle – Hell that horrific. His foot twisted like that reminds me of how “go” use to play ball. Hey “go” – do u still have 2 left feet?

  • Anonymous
    February 26, 2008 at 10:10 am Reply

    2 Manure guys feuding

    there’s nothing UNITED about United supporters

    What a bunch of handle less muggs


  • Now in top15
    February 26, 2008 at 10:10 am Reply

    look a like of the week

    come on now Swoosh.

    We suppose to have Ejaz up against the village bakery guy

  • Anonymous
    February 26, 2008 at 10:16 am Reply

    Punisher dont let me start reminding you of your ball skills.

  • SETH
    February 26, 2008 at 11:12 am Reply


    If you wanting to give your tickets away, i’ll be glad to take them off your hands. LOL.

    The SA teams seem to be stuggling to string together any decent phases of play. The new laws are supposed to make the game quicker and more try scoring friendly. But i think this weekend in total the SA teams scored 4 tries.

    Swoosh, i’m impressed, a chick who know’s her rugby.

  • ZK
    February 26, 2008 at 11:55 am Reply

    hey anyone have tickets for this weekends match at loftus between Sharks and Bulls pleaase let me know 🙂 trying to get to that game its gonna be awesome and seth girls do know about rugby and football we just leave you guys to talk about it so that you don’t feel threatened 🙂
    but thanks 😉

  • azee
    February 26, 2008 at 12:49 pm Reply

    swoosh you will say that pereira must go and Igesund must take over now that he is out of a job?

    oN THE RUGBY WAS AT Ellis Park and it was depressing. Those turnstile defence was back. we missed way too many tackles.Earl Rose should start as he has some class. The new laws are definately suited to teams that play the ball in hand. It also requires supreme fitness as the game is much faster. THE NZ teams will dominate. The only SA team with a hope is teh Sharks!

    But i still hope for that home semi at Ellis Park!

  • Mini
    February 26, 2008 at 12:58 pm Reply

    ZK….You are absolutely impressive!….

    All I can say is that your writing abilities don’t tend to be biased like Ejaz,so good on you gal!
    Pity you support a shit team..

    Seth dead right! 1 great player surrounded by shit.

    Spurs supporters good for you guys!

    Takilla if you want I got a cousin that is German,so I can organise a chick for you coz I see that you got this obsession with them.The last 2 good things that came out of Germany was the the Berlin wall and Boris Becker(what a legand)

  • swoosh0018
    February 26, 2008 at 1:29 pm Reply

    ZK. I want to ask you something. What are your opinions on Peter De Villiers taking over as teh Rugby Coach.I want to see you if share the same views as Azee and SETH, The 2 lions supporters that have been waiting a lifetime for the Currie Cup to come to Ellis Park

  • ZK
    February 26, 2008 at 2:05 pm Reply

    thanks mini
    Swoosh i can’t believe you put me in the hot seat but anywhoo here goes…
    I’m all for de villiers…dnt get me wrong i know he has to prove his part and damn that sure is an uphill battle… not ever coaching a super14/12/10 side and neither a province but damn can this man produce talent at under21…
    I was privileged to have watched him coach them when the Under21 WC was in Dbn and this man sure can pick talent…the same talent that was in the WC winning side. He knows the younglings in the team and has mentored them through the make or break period…so i say give him a chance.
    Meyer was the perfect candidate for the role but i guess that wasnt enough…changing times?!?!?!?
    It was def a clever move of de villiers to keep smit as captain for this year…it shows he will not forsake those who prove themselves…and as he said before he will choose on merit…
    on these points he gets my vote but the ultimate decision will be the first test match a new look bok side will play…
    I hope that de villiers is watching the super14 closely and that he learns how to use ELV to his advantage.

    (Every1 who hates MY OPINION — go screw yourself 🙂 )

  • Anonymous
    February 26, 2008 at 2:10 pm Reply


    At least we loyal to the place where we were born and raised.
    Unlike you, a 100% Joburger who supports the sh*t called the Sharks!

    It’s actually the Sharks who are waiting a lifetime for any Cup, go and check up when was the last time that they won it. They are even bigger chokers than the Proteas. What’s it now 6 finals and 0 wins?

    Or perhaps you not telling us about your Stukkie from Lugs.


  • SETH
    February 26, 2008 at 2:35 pm Reply

    Some great points on De Villiers ZK.

    The major problem that he’s going to have is that we do not have a decent flyhalf. Butch is playing overseas but has been injured and their is no other decent option.

    Steyn is the likely answer but if he plays at Fullback for the Sharks it’s not going to be easy for him to adjust to playing flyhalf at test level.

    Pretorius is always injured and Grant hasn’t yet set anything alight. Hougaard is limited and has always failed when given the chance at the highest level.

    The cupboard is bare at No.10.

  • Anonymous
    February 26, 2008 at 2:53 pm Reply


    The column is called from the Kop End
    Its about Liverpool
    Which part of it don’t you understand ?

    I guess your thinking capacity dropped with Leeds
    down the drain

    Its about Liverpool ,I’m a liverpool supporter

    Chavil’s piece is about United, he’s a United supporter

    Maybe in the next decade or so when Leeds finally make it back to the top flight ,swoosh will give you a column

    Leeds to nowhere,just like your points…


  • ZK
    February 26, 2008 at 3:14 pm Reply

    i think with the way steyn is playing for the sharks as fullback that may just be his permanent position…
    o wel the quest goes on…

  • Ta^KiLLa
    February 26, 2008 at 5:38 pm Reply

    HaHa @ Mini getting a Leeds column.. We might as well just report on WFA kka GMFA..

    As for the Sharks vs Lions debate.. Who cares.. Bulls will whip both their rear ends, whether it be super 14 or currie cup (provided our boys are not on international duty).. Thats rite, the only reason we didnt win the Currie Cup was to rest our Stars.. Which is like 3/4 the team..

    Shakes – I know Rafinha is from German league but ive neva seen him play.. Just wanted an opinion on his style of play and position..

    Seth – I told ZK bout 3 hours ago, those tickets are gone.. Needed to know earlier..

    Mini – U wanna get me a German wife.. Make sure shes Alipur pls.. Also u reckon only Becker was a German legend.. Wat about Mercedes Benz, BMW, Audi, Steffi Graf( rememba her legs), Bernard Langer, Adolf Hitler just to mention a few..

  • Mini
    February 27, 2008 at 7:05 am Reply

    Oh yeah Killer,Steffi was superb,forgot about her and Claudia Schiffer.Bernharn Langer?cmon boet get real

    Ejaz….Remember your nusery rhymes?
    Pat-a-cake,pat-a-cake-bakers man,
    Bake me a cake as fast as you can,
    Pat it an prick it and mark it with a B,
    Put in the oven for Barnsley and me!.

    You see Ejaz there is a distinct difference between being a fan and being a biased fan,after all swoosh is also a Liverpool fan.

    You kinda like Trevor Quirks cricket commentry(he was pathetic).
    I remeber one occasion when a certain cricketert dropped a catch and he said….”beautifully held but dropped???????”what a stupid F@#K.He was so anti everybody but South Africa it kinda made me embarresed to be SOuth African @ times.

    No hard feelings Ejaz take it as constructive criticism.

  • azee
    February 27, 2008 at 10:37 am Reply

    We needed a coach of colour! De villiers is no mugg. he is up against it though as he is filling the shoes of a men who won the WC. And he has a depleted squad with not smit, matfield, percy, butch etc.

    Added to this he has the ELV’S. We know that players in SA take longer then NZ and Aus players to adapt.The elv’s also promote ball in hand rugby which we not the most adapt at. its going to be tough on the guy! but at least we will see more players of colour!

  • Anonymous
    February 27, 2008 at 10:50 am Reply

    Its cool Mini

    I was told to focus on Liverpool
    hence the Kop end

    If you want proper balance then you can read my English premiership piece in the Indicator every month

    For the swoosh website its all about the Kop

    Its just the way it is

    As for the nursery rhyme
    You know what they say

    “Little things amuse little minds”

    Knock yourself out boet
    If it makes you happy !


  • Anonymous
    February 27, 2008 at 11:07 am Reply

    Come Now Guys.

    Do you want Ejaz to write about how good looking Luke Chadwick was.

    He and Swoosh are Kop blooded guys. They are ABUS.

    It will be doomsday before they say anything nice. Beside Thats how it should be. Neutral is


  • Shakes
    February 28, 2008 at 6:38 am Reply

    This makes interesting reading…

    Gerrard angered by Liverpool form

    Steven Gerrard has declared that even winning the Champions League this term will not make up for the dismal performance in the Premier League
    The Liverpool skipper accepts that only fourth place now is acceptable as they battle to secure entry into Europe’s elite competition next term.

    But he said: “You don’t get any prizes in football for finishing in second place, never mind fourth.

    “I don’t think that the fans would accept fourth as an accomplishment and for me it’s not nearly good enough.

    “We need to improve dramatically and even if we do finish fourth, it doesn’t mean we have had a good season.”

    Gerrard accepts Liverpool are now involved in a winner-takes-all battle for fourth spot with neighbours Everton and Aston Villa, Portsmouth and Manchester City.

    Having regained fourth place on Saturday by beating Middlesbrough, they saw Everton grab it back on Monday with an impressive demolition of Sven-Goran Eriksson’s City.

    And the battle will rage on this weekend with Liverpool at Bolton on Sunday while Everton are at home to Pompey later in the day.

    Gerrard, in an LFC magazine interview, showed his own frustrations and anger at the club’s current fortunes.

    He said: “In the position we find ourselves now, fourth is the least that is acceptable. But we have bigger ambitions than that.

    “The only way we can fulfil those ambitions is in the Champions League. And I am not going to pretend that even winning that trophy – and we are a long way away from it at the moment – will make up for the disappointment of the league campaign.

    “I’m pretty gutted every time I look at the table and see the gap between us and Arsenal at the top, and even the gap between us and second and third.

    “We believed we had the players to challenge for the title, and we wanted that one more than any other trophy available to us. I still believe we have the squad to be a hell of a lot more competitive than we are right now.”

    And Gerrard, significantly, claims the time has come for the club to stop looking at their long-term potential. The Reds skipper, who has again been linked recently with a summer move to Real Madrid, said: “I’m getting tired of saying the same thing over and over again.

    “We can’t keep talking about next season all the time. There are only so many times you can say it and believe it. Sooner or later we have to make one season the season we make it happen and do the talking on the pitch.

    “We need to make people believe it. I’m 27 now, I don’t want to be talking about ‘next season’ for Liverpool when I’m 32.

    “We’ve got the stadium, the fans, the manager and the players to compete for the Premier League. But we have no chance of doing that if we are always well out of it by the first week in January.

    “And at the moment we have our work cut out fighting it out with Villa, Everton and Manchester City for fourth.”

    And he added: “Only we can make this season a success now. We’d like to finish fourth and win the European Cup again.

    “But the demands of being a Liverpool player, the expectations that come with the privilege of pulling on that jersey mean we’ve got to improve.

    “You make your own luck, shape your own destiny. And now we soon have massive games at Manchester United and Arsenal, knowing we can’t win the league.

    “We are not bothered about whether we have an impact on the title race we’re not in. But winning at both those places would send out a message for next season. That would lay down a marker that no-one would ignore.”

    Gerrard also expresses a disappointment that a season of crisis off the pitch has given “those in the media who don’t like Liverpool” the chance to criticise.

    “We have made it easy for them,” he said.

    “It’s not been a good situation (the takeover speculation) for anybody. It’s sad so much of the club’s business has been conducted in public. The club I have grown up supporting always did its business behind closed doors, and that is what we have to get back to.

    “It’s been a damaging situation for every single person involved with the club, fans, players, bosses, owners, from top to bottom.”

    But Gerrard’s theme, which should not be ignored by those “bosses and owners”, is the lack of a real title challenge.

    He added: “If you asked most of our fans, they would rather see the title than the European Cup at Anfield. We’ve not won it in a long, long time.

    “Looking at the league table hurts. This time last year we were third and Arsenal were fourth, and that is the way the season ended. It hurts to see where Arsenal are now.”

  • ebi Kop End
    February 28, 2008 at 7:26 am Reply

    Shakes since when are you so concerned about Liverpool and what there players have to say? maybe you do have concern and some support for Liverpool after all!

  • saaleha. bamjee. hyphen.
    February 28, 2008 at 7:45 am Reply

    Well done ZK.
    Succinct, with good flow. (I can only speak from a writing perspective:))
    This is definitely your niche.

  • Shakes
    February 28, 2008 at 7:57 am Reply

    Ebi it was just an article I came across on the net and thought some fools may be interested in reading. Guess the fact that your captain has said exactly what all us Mancs have been telling you for years hurts.

    Can sense the frustration in your post. Next season then hey?


  • ebi Kop End
    February 28, 2008 at 8:49 am Reply

    ZK… good stuff keep it going!

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